Refuting Pedophillia Lie of Atheists & Christian claims against the Prophet Muhammed Pbuh.

  • Last Updated: 18th, May.2022

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Let’s first show Christianity before we continue…..

Joseph “90 Years old” married 12-Year-old St.Mary
According to Christian (Historical Record) http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm
{ According to the Roman Catholics’ Encyclopedia “New Advent”Mary was as young as 12 when she married 90-year old Joseph. This means that she was around 11 when she got pregnant with Jesus.}

Nabeel Qurashi a Christian Apologist even admits that Mary and Joseph were “Young Children” when they conceived Jesus.


Bible: We also have a clear verse in Bible. KILL women but keep virgins (little) girls to your selves.
Numbers 31:17-18. In this passage of the Bible a priest was given 32 virgin girls as “war booty”.

A Christian named Christian Prince even admits,  these girls were taken as slaves and after one month time, you can marry them. So after killing their parents in war, you take them as slaves and you can desire to wed them. See:

And then they attack the Quran about wedding children?

No wonder Christian Priests follow the Bible they are known as the Biggest Pedophiles world widworldwide00 Priests Convicted of Rape just in the U.S.A
Proof: http://bishop-accountability.org/priestdb/PriestDBbylastName-A.html

I believe Allah has punished the Christians for their slandering of our Prophet so Allah has exposed them. So they are taking their anger out on Islam.

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had many enemies and they claimed many things against him but never of Pedophilia ( astaghfirullah)
It’s unfair to judge people of 1400 years to even as far back as 100 years according to today’s laws and customs, you have to judge them if they were doing something wrong or not, by their laws and customs during their time.

Age of consent was set at Puberty in History:
Age of consent & customs
The Encyclopaedia of Britannica 15th edition volume 26 page 850.
Definition for puberty:
In human physiology, puberty is the stage or period of life when a child transforms into an adult normally capable of procreation

100 years ago for Islamaphobes and ignorant people go read history in “1889 America age of consent 7 to 10 years old in history in the WEST. Clearing the Prophet of going against the laws in history hence clearing Pedophilia.

This is taken directly from Wikipedia:


Under Subtitle History and Social attitudes.

Alexios II Komnenos Byzantine emperor married Anna of France at 8 years old she was born in 1171 married at 1179 died in 1204
Isaac II Angelos Byzantine emperor married Margaret of Hungry (empress) in 1184 when she was only 9 years old she was born in 1175 and died at 1204

Today around the world the average is between 13 and 16
Spain 13 Argentina 13 Austria 13 Bulgaria 14 Germany 14 Italy 14 Portugal 14 Brazil 14 Ecuador 14 Canada 14 and many more. The list is on the link below.

Legislation varies across Europe, with countries setting different legal ages of consent:

  • 14 years old: Austria, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Portugal
  • 15: Greece, Poland, Sweden
  • 16: Belgium, the Netherlands, Spain, Russia

In the UK the age of sexual consent is 16,

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43300313

So if we look at it with a sound mind; Your ancestors can be classified as a pedophile as well. Your family is born from pedophiles. I am ashamed of you, you are an outcome of pedophilia, Perhaps?

Not to mention throughout history people would get married young because the average life span was short. And it was normal during the customs of that time. Take a look at 1700 to mid-1900.


Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy

25 years to 35 years was the age expectancy. So this is more proof that people would have married much earlier.

Also, this begs the question if life expectancy was low, then girls developing early to women hood would have been a factor too. Some people ask, would you give your 9-year-old daughter to a 50-year-old man? The answer is, we dont live 200 years ago let alone, 1400 years ago, where girls matured much earlier based on puberty. Just as life expectancy had evolved so could have girls maturing later.

Just 200 years ago, the American constitution had laws that set marriage between 7 and 10 years old. These days it’s not the same, so no I wouldn’t condone 50 years old marrying today’s 9-year-olds. Because we know that, they can hardly be developed as, today’s human biology has changed significantly.

We can see even the age of puberty dramatically changes:


So who can say for sure, girls didn’t develop earlier back 1400 years ago, Just as age death expectancy changes and so does puberty, it’s then possible girls and boys developed into women and men much earlier than today’s standard.

Christian Apologist Sam Shamoun admits on his Website.
at Answering-Islam.com

Thus, we have a biblical text establishing that the age for marriage begins when a girl has become post-pubescent, i.e. when she has reached a point where she is past puberty. Source:http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/marriage_age.htm

According to experts in the medical field, the average age for the start of puberty starts between 9 and can end at 15 or 16. So this would mean Sam Shamoun is suggesting that after the age of 15 or 16. Then a girl can be wedded. However, if we follow Sam’s explanation there are laws in both Australia or most states in the United States of America that have the legal age set at 18. However, the Bible says “Post- Pubescent which would mean around 15 or 16. That’s still two to three years younger than the legal requirement. So will the critics also  believe the Bible condones Pedophilia because it would now allow a 30 or 40 or 50-year-old man, to get married to a 15 or 16-year-old? Sam Shamoun now has to accept that a 50-year-old man wedding a 15-year-old is not then defined as Pedophilia because He argues the Bible says, Post-Prebuscent is when she can get married.

Now, this gets more interesting, all though “the average” age for the start and end of puberty can be between 9 and 15. It can even start much earlier depending on which ethnicity or race, or the geographical region you are belong too. For example in the African or Hispanic continent, it can start much earlier like age 7 and can take 3 to 4 years of the process of puberty to end. That would mean by age 10 a girl can be Postpubescent!

See here:


Source: https://www.dukehealth.org/blog/when-puberty-too-early

Therefore Sam Shamoun technically accepts that Young marriages to even 10-year-old girls are Biblical!

So again when the Prophet Muhammed consummated his Marriage with Ashia, she could have been 9 years and 11 months old. (i.e) close to 10 years old.

And we know Islamic sources do say, she was 9 when Marriage was consummated. And not 6.

At age 6 she was only betrothal  to the Prophet, (a mutual promise or contract for a future marriage) meaning only worded contract, nothing more than that. There was no “sexual intimacy”.

So now going back to the Bible and looking at this book for approval of the Prophets marriage, which is approved Biblically and scientifically as being PostPrebuscent.

The West understands  the difference between a child and a adolescent is the onset of Puberty. Ashia (r.a) the Prophets youngest wife after becoming post prebuscent was married according to the norm of the society at the time.

Christian Apologist Dr James white reminds christians not to use the pedophillia arguement because, Young Marriages were common back then:
Source: https://youtu.be/wyvPhcsWbzY

Here is the Evidence from History and Present Day!
Age of Marriage was low back then. Western World.

Even in our Modern World 12 Year old Girls.

Read this:
2000 to 2010, the most recent year for which most states were able to provide information. We learned that in 38 states, more than 167,000 children — almost all of them girls, some as young 12 — were married during that period,

Source: 1:


Source 2:


We even have the “French” 🇫🇷  in Our Modern World reducing the age of sexual consent from 18 to only 15 years old. Source:


Makes you now wonder, how the WEST is confused on the specific age of sexual consent. Having sexual relations between a 40 year old and a 15 year old, would be considered rape in the UK, Australia and Most states of the U.S, well not so now in France. But again who gets to call they are “Progressed”? France or the Rest?

Here is another Christian conservative Apologist Milo Yiannopoulos who is Anti-Islamist agrees that for a 29 year old man to have consensual sex with a 13 year old who is ready sexually. It is not Pedophillia! He argues. Take a read:

For more details read: Responses to Common Arguement Christians make about Pedophillia read:

According to Journal of Human development reaching Puberty meant becoming a Adult in terms of Giving Consent read:

Young Teenagers in History who went through Puberty were able to give consent according to The Journal of Human development. As the onset of Puberty marked Maturity, Responsibility and Behavior. The link i provided attests to that for why the age of consent coincided with the Age of Puberty.

At the same link here:

Go to the Anti-Islam responses section bellow the page, we deal with all the twisted lies in the hadith that Ashia. Did not reach puberty at 9 years of age. Playing with Dolls, Does the Quran allow sex with prebubscent children? Did Abu Bekir Refuse Marriage? Also above the page we deal with the lie that she was only SIX years old. When this is not exactly correct, all though there was marriage at age 6, this wasn’t consummated until she was 9. We explain it further here:

See here:



  1. All though we do not condone Child marriages or sex with minors check out this point from a Atheistic point of reference;

Atheist can not even say from a Scientific perspective that child marriages are wrong or raping people is wrong. Take a listen here; there are no real objective morals in Science.

Again I’m not condoning Child marriages just showing the double standards according to their own Atheist world view.

In the Year 1976 “Taking Nude and Sexualized pictures of a 10 year old Girl in the West.


From the Religion of Love. 10 and 8 years olds in Romania promised Arranged Marriage:

12 Year Old Gives Birth in Australia.
Source: https://thewest.com.au/news/health/12-year-old-girl-gives-birth-in-perth-hospital-report-ng-b881084396z

Of course it’s possibly another Legal Teen pregnancy due to boy & girl friend relationship. Will now hush our Bogan Culture Under the table?

What about these: 17,000 Pedophiles in Australia?


Should we now say, Pedophilia is Australian Culture?

Rebuttal section:

The critics write; Muslims follow Pedophile/ Warlord Prophet as the “Best Exemplar”.


The West still has laws in the Modern West that still allow sexual relations on the onset of Puberty. Look at America the age of consent still set at 12 in some states. Our Prophet has nothing wrong as being the best exemplar since he never brock the ruling of young marriages which were accepted through out history. So yes his still the best exemplar for ALL time. Ashia marriage age was certainly normal and even today U.S laws still have the age of consent as low as 12. Just because your subjective opionion raises it to 18 does not mean who ever disagree is a false exemplar. Its a straw man arguement its like argueing if i change the consent law to age 28, who ever does not full fill this and disagrees and marry’s people who are 18 is the wrong exemplar.

So whos the best exemplar? Puberty at 9 is wrong for sexual maturity. But puberty at 13 is O.K for sexual maturity according to West? Teen pregnancy isn’t encouraged but still acceptable in West but marriage to a 13 year old is wrong?

Furthermore even if you like to dispute and say his not the best examplar due to our current laws. That still a incoherent arguement  because his life was the best exampler through out history. As you are aware his young wife was not the only wife, he had wives that were even older then him, therefore he was still the best exempler as he full filled both pre-modern laws and full filled Modern laws by marrying women whos ages of consent was accepted in the past and future. So to then judge him with todays modern laws proves nothing since he still married older women within even his own life time. Who knows maybe in the future Westerners may drop the age of consent back to Puberty, just like today they still accept teen pregnancies in the West so to try and character assisinate him on today’s subjective laws is quite unfair and illogical. And since when is the West the measuring stick of the best exemplar? The same West that has legal necrophilia, incest, sodomites, even having sex with animals. Girls who identify themselves as being Male, and then you have a lady marrying her piano, you can find these laws legal in parts of Western countries. So “No” the West is not the measuring stick of what is determined as best Exemplar. For Muslims engaging in these sorts of behaviours such as man on man is the wrong exemplar. Therefore imagine i used my subjective opionion and criticized West for being the wrong exemplar for human kind? See im showing you that its a incoherent arguement to apply a subjective opionion to determin what makes or makes not a good exemplar.


“Your Prophet was a pedophile! He was married to and cohabited with Aisha when she was just nine years old!”

You trolls need to find some new lines. The Prophet, peace be upon him, married Aisha with the blessing and approval of her parents and he was committed to her, took care of her, taught her, and, through his care, she became one of the most knowledgeable and influential scholars of Islam and a leader of the community. This was the kind of marriage practiced by Muslims and Christians and Jews and every other culture and religion for nearly all of human history. Girls were married young by their parents to committed husbands. My own great grandmother was married at 13.

In contrast, the pedophilia pioneered in the modern West, practiced by rich and poor Western perverts alike, involves, among other things, diddling one’s child relatives secretly in closets and dark rooms, orgies with underage girls that are essentially kidnapped, the most evil child pornography, sex rings with thousands of abducted children, where once they have drugged up the children, used them and put them through the most degrading, vile sex acts, passing them around among their friends like broken objects, these children are discarded like trash. Some are killed and never heard of again. This is the pedophilia of the “superior” west that you disgusting trolls want to equate with the noble, pure marriage of the Prophet peace be upon him to our mother, Aisha.

Don’t project the filthy degeneracy found in the “superior” West onto the superior religion.

-Daniel Haqiqatiu

A Critic Wrote: Yes I do know catholic’s also have a problem in Child Molestation but most of them seem to be historic cases, they seem to have got their house in order, We no longer have Grooming Modern day gangs as prolific in the West unlike the Muslim ones.

My Response: Predominately Christian cases are only Historic are they?

Most of the top 5 countries in the World are Predominately Christian countries who have a significant Child Abuse Cases. So Child abuse is part of your filthy non-Muslim Modern day culture, not just history.


South Africa

One child is raped in South Africa every three minutes, according to a 2009 report by trade union Solidarity Helping Hand.

A 2009 survey by the country’s Medical Research Council found that one in four men admits to raping someone, 62% of boys over 11 believe forcing someone to have sex is not an act of violence and a third believe girls enjoy rape, the Independent reported


In its 2013 report India’s Hell Holes: Child Sexual Assault in Juvenile Justice Homes, the Asian Centre for Human Rights said that sexual offences against children in India have reached epidemic proportion.

The report stated that more than 48,000 child rape cases were recorded from 2001 to 2011 and that India saw an increase of 336% of child rape cases from 2001 (2,113 cases) to 2011 (7,112 cases).

“Imagine 48,838 children raped in just 10 years


Police spokesperson Assistant Commissioner Charity Charamba said in 2012 that rape cases against children continued to increase countrywide, according to NewsdeZimbabwe.

“The (rape) cases are on the increase and during the week ending 25 September 2012, the cases rose to 81 from 65 the previous week. Evident from our investigations is the fact that relatives commit most juvenile rape cases,” said Charamba. 30,000 boys and girls sexually abused

United Kingdom

A quarter of a million Britons – more than one in every 200 adults – are paedophiles, according to figures released by Scotland Yard, the Telegraph reported in 2000.

In 2012/13, there were 18,915 sexual crimes against children under 16 recorded in England and Wales, according to the National Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC). Included in that figure were 4,171 offences of sexual assault on a female child under 13 and 1,267 offences of sexual assault on under-13 male children.

In the UK, one in 20 children (4.8%) have experienced contact sexual abuse and over 90% of children who experienced sexual abuse, were abused by someone they know, NSPCC said.

A paedophile ring linked to Britain’s worst abuser Robert Smith, arrested in 2005, is ‘still at large’, the Herald reported in 2013.

United States

“Even if the true prevalence of child sexual abuse is not known, most will agree that there will be 500,000 babies born in the US this year that will be sexually abused before they turn 18 if we do not prevent it,” according to the Children Assessment Centre (CAC).

What is more “Shocking is that even in our modern World some states it is legal to Wed girls as young as 12 years old read:

2000 to 2010, the most recent year for which most states were able to provide information. We learned that in 38 states, more than 167,000 children — almost all of them girls, some as young 12 — were married during that period,



BBC-Reports Angel was just 13 years old when she was forced into Marriage in the U.S:

According to the local department of tourism, more than 4.7 million foreigners come to the Philippines each year. Of these, 1.2 million are men who arrive on their own. Most numerous are tourists from Korea, the US, China and Australia. The UK is ninth on the list, closely followed by other European countries.
Freedom to leave children behind?

In conclusion:

We need to understand we live in a Modern new world. Things that were practised in the past, were done in the context of environmental differences from today. 200 to 300 years ago, Marriages to adolescents were accepted even in the West, between ages 7 to 10 years old. Now since then the age of consent has been raised to 14 or 18 depending what part of the Western World you live in.

The reason being in our modern era, girls tend to develop much later. This is part of human evolution. And no, I’m not talking about Darwinian evolution, but rather accepted changes that naturally fluctuate depending on nutrition and environmental circumstances. For example they say, girls and boys who live in hotter climates tend to develop earlier then those who live in colder climates. And so if we accept that these changes can occur, who is to say 1400 years ago the climate was much diffrent and so was the science behind girls developing much younger? So for example todays 15 or 16 year old girl could be equivalent to a 9 or 10 year old back 1400 years ago?

And so based on that, it would be unfair to judge the Prophet based on the age He married Ashia, when she most probably did not look anything like todays 9 year old girls, but rather looked like she was 14 or 16 for the matter.

1400 years ago was awfully a long time ago, and many things may have changed by then. Thus the critics trying to attack the character of the Prophet have no real arguement at all, since they conflate our modern era, to that of very ancient times. For those who dispute and claim there is very little evidence that, biological changes occur or that there is no evidence that girls developed earlier in pre-modern times, well i would ask you to read this article:

So to sum up:

There you will read that even in our modern times, people are going back to maturing earlier based on nutritional factors . So I ask what makes you think it wasn’t possible for girls to mature earlier during the Pre-modern era? If changes are observed today then its also possible changes occurred in ancient times, thus the fact that there is now evidence that biological development fluctuates in our modern times what makes you think it didn’t fluctuates back in the ancient times? If it’s possible now, then it was possible back then, end of story.

Also makes me laugh, when a critic claims back in the ancient times there are no records to suggest that girls in ancient times matured earlier. This makes me laugh, because they think almost 1500 to 2000 years ago, there were scientists collecting data from all parts of the globe measuring when girls conclusively went through development. These fools think, that science back then was interested in those findings as if there were hundreds of universities collaborating with one another on such findings, well news flash things of that nature and interests about such topics were very vague and not conclusive and hardly was there investigation agenda as there is like in today’s modern world, they just didn’t have that sort of accessibility, people back then would spend months and years travelling from  one continent to another let alone, attain all the knowledge about human development of the time. Science and data was hardly even collected for conclusive rulings, so yes it does make me laugh, when today’s Modern critic rules out the evidence of early development in girls in pre-modern time because he thinks there is no evidence. Well, the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, all it means is that people didn’t pay attention to collecting data more broadly back then, because of environmental factors, or other circumstances like the development of science. So for these silly critics to dismiss possibilities based on no data is foolish and ignorant and arrogant indeed. Because that’s not how things are to be dismissed. Just because there was no data in ancient times about the existence of DNA does not mean that DNA isn’t true, is it? Well, it is, even if there wasn’t supporting evidence for it in ancient times. Just as we have supporting evidence today of the existence of human DNA and the genome, we also have evidence of human development evolving at times maturity comes much later and at times much earlier which in of its self also evidence those changes could have occurred much earlier in ancient times.

A Christian wrote;



Clearly this person is a liar. The Prophet did not explain how the rules of the religion made it possible. Rather Abu Bekir hesitation was due to Aisha being already engaged to someone else at the time. And So Abu Bekir didn’t know how to approach this and end it, He later then found it a good idea to help end his daughters engagement to another man who was a member of the Qurashe who were enemies of the Muslims, so infact Abu Bekir thought this was eventually a good idea to end that engagement. Which begs another question, if Islamic rules were there to convince Abu bekir to so those rules favour the Prophet, why was Abu Bekirs daughter already engaged to someone else before the Prophet?

This in itself debunks the accusers, and that young marriages were practised before the Prophet engaged with Abu Bekirs Daughter. This now refutes the notion that the Prophet was like a cult figure trying to introduce a law to suit the Prophet, when there was already customs of young marriages being implemented before the Prophet wish to engage with Aisha R.A.


Shariah Law VS Secular Liberalism


Last updated: 21st, May. 2022

New update: Number 47


By: Mustafa Sahin (Australia Muslim Apologetics)



The Prophetic Predictions of the End times:

Must Watch:




1: Modern Day Deaths Caused

2: Human Rights abuses

3: Terrorism

4: Murder

5: Freedom of Expression 

6: Theft/Robbery

7: Drugs

8: Prostitution and Pornography

9: Alcohol 

10: Abortion 

11: Women and Wealth entitlement 

12: Sexism

13: Nuclear Weapons

14: Homosexuality (Lgbtiq+)

15: Beastiality

16: Incest

17: Fornication/Adultery

18: Polygamy 

19: Interest (Usuary)

20: Wealth (Riches)

21: Nation’s Most Debt

22: Charity (Donations)

23: Environmental Effects (Pollution and Destruction)

24: Slavery and Sexual Slavery

25: Expansionism (Take over the World)

26: Death Penalty (Executions)

27: Dress code

28: Gambling

29: Maternity leave

30: Rape

31: Punishing the Rape victim.

32: Male Guardianship and Gender roles

33: Personal hygiene 

34: Antidepressants and Happyness

35: Divorce rates

36: Segregation and Equal rights

37: Fertility rates and Marriage

38: Converting the fastest

39: Suicide Rates and Patience and contention.

40: Technology (Modern Advancements)

41: Health

42: Sense of community (Structure)

43: Racism

44: Progressed and civilized

45: Education

46: Women Empowerment 

47: Rights of minorities 



Orthodox Christian, says the Truth about Islam regarding Shariah law.

Christian Professor admits He prefers Shariah Law over Modern Laws.

A White Nationalist Christian concedes to the idea that Secular liberal beliefs have caused a lot of our modern-day problems, that we detest, see the debate;


Confession from more conservative Christians;


Source for comment taken from Youtube. Anthony Bourdain, Parts unknown Istanbul.


Shariah Law vs Secular Liberal Values.

Let’s analyse the difference and its impacts……




Number 1

Modern-day 20th-century deaths caused by Muslims vs Westerners

Shariah Law = Contributed (2 million) killed.

Secular Liberalism   = Contributed (100 million) killed.




Critic wrote:



My response:



He wrote:



My Response:

Are you that incompetent and dishonest? People suffering at the hands of Mujahideen.

Atheist and agnostic fighting for someone in the sky?

Of course, they do, Atheists and agnostics join the U.S military to invade Muslim countries to fight a religion that believes in a God in the sky 😆

By the way, just recently we heard a militant atheist got arrested in America where He attacked a Mosque again attacked people who believe there was a God in the sky 😆🤙


Also, you have no answer, religion has no involvement in the Russian and Ukrainian conflict. It’s nationalism and human greed. Nothing to do with religion and yet you think Religion is the problem.

I also laugh at how you use, a fallacy known as a false dilemma. Look at Japan it’s peaceful without religion. Yeh, that’s now proof religion causes conflict?

Wellll was Japan always peaceful? What about pearl harbour? 😂🤙

They are only now peaceful because they got Nuked 😂…not because they somehow became progressed and enlightened.

If you took away nuclear warheads, the West including Japan and all the other peaceful nations your site would have all killed each other by now 😂🤙


Number 2

Human Rights abusers, Freedom of Speech?

Shariah Law =  See the two videos for a Comprehensive Explanation of human rights.

Part 1

Part 2

Secular Liberalism  = Claims to give Human rights. But if this is true, we need an explanation from them. Such as;

– Where is the right to leak information. the  [1]
– Who ere is the right to have dual citizenship.[2]
– Where is the right to wear what you want.[3]
– Where is the right to burn a flag.[4]
– Where is the right to Hate speech.[5]
– Where is the right to Polygamy. [6]
– Where is the right, for religion in Politics.[7]

Should I continue with Liberal intolerance? Or perhaps you still think liberal values make more sense?


A Critic wrote:


My response:



So basically what we are seeing is a minority group’s human right depends on if there are enough politicians in favour of voting for that human right. If there aren’t enough numbers those human beings are denied their human man rights. 

She wrote back:


My Response;

Looks like you haven’t done your homework when it comes to Australian Law. They have changed Helal slaughter requirements, where Animals need to now be stunned, first. Before slaughter. So much for your claim, about giving rights to minorities even if they don’t have a majority vote.

By the way, even those minorities who are given some rights are, need to still be elected by the majority of voters. So it still requires a majority vote to give minorities a right.

Furthermore (Yes) certain exemptions are given, only when it’s convenient to do so even to minorities who don’t have a
voice. Certain Politicians might at times who win elections may promise rights to minorities. But this is done purely to win public support, to help him secure a seat. Think about how some white politicians might speak great about a certain ethnic community to win over the Mexicans or BLM movements.

We also need to look at other things like economical gain. The Australian government profits from the Helal industry. That’s why in some instances it may give Islamic rights to certain minorities, it may at times even give certain rights to religious practise like building mosques, this is all done because it wants to prove that it is inclusive, and unbiased or tries to live on liberal principles of freedom and diversity.

But let’s be honest, is allowing helal meat affecting or Islamasizing the West? Is Helal as confronting in your face practice? I mean having meat in your bread isn’t the same as displaying a second wife which Is pretty confronting and challenging Western ideals isn’t it? I mean a lot of non-Muslim are anti-immigration because they don’t want to see more mosques go up which can be confronted with the Australian culture and landscape. And a reason why they are doing their best is to shut down Islam in the West. That’s why they will often say, go back to your own country. Especially to those who are more conservative and confronting such as those who wear the Hijab or Burka. Is it to know to wonder why France banned the burka or Australia banned polygamy, but they had no real interest in banning a kebab did they. Because helal meat isn’t as confronting or changing the landscape as the Burka.

So yes, the Liberal government will give some form of religious freedom so long as it’s not changing too much society, but soon as the numbers grow they place a squeeze. So it’s false to say, minorities still get rights. They get rights only when it’s not much of a loss for the West, and they may give to make a gain out of it. Otherwise, minorities are not a priority for them especially if they happen to be Muslims.

So giving some basic rights to Muslims isn’t about because they care about Muslims and human rights, if they do give a right, it usually is about a political stunt to win an election or to help him retain their seat in office, it’s certainly not about caring about human rights or minorities I can assure you.

Human rights values for minorities depend upon the decision of those who are in authority and are not based on the decision of minority groups. In other words, minorities only gain rights if those in power give them rights. If those in power decide to never give them rights then those in a minority are denied basic human rights. You do realise this is how it works right.

  1. For example, the LGBTIQ were denied same-sex rights for many many years. Only after hard campaigning were those rights given. So basically you need to fight tooth and nail to get a right, though suppose there was never a majority view giving LGBTIQ a right, then the LGBTIQ would have to continue to submit to the law even though they live in a liberal democracy. And that’s the thing, most French politicians have voted against the Burka, therefore it’s now outlawed as it stands in FranceHasve this denied basic human rights? Yes!

Secular liberal democracy can discriminate and go against human rights depending on who approves the law. If those in power decide, that they will never be in favour of the burka, and this goes on for the next 50 years or 150 years for the matter, they can easily deny human rights under their so-called liberal values.

So what exactly are you trying to defend here?


Let’s continue……

In addition an explanation of the Human rights abuses of the Afghani people.

Video 1

Video 2


The West war with Afghanistan’s Islam Part 1/2.

The West war with Afghanistan’s Islam Part 2/2


Muslim Men beating women?




See how these Secular Liberal democratic Media known as the ABC  forcefully removes an audience member, for being pro Russian.


See the video:


So if you disagree you throw him out? 


See the comments that follow:






  • Do visit a debate and counter-responses to an ExMuslim on a debate on Human rights see how Feminism is refuted in this debate:


Also visit: Are Secular Liberal Humanists peaceful?



Finally, see how secular liberals hate the very system they claim to believe in that being “human rights”.




[1] The US indictment accused Assange of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion by helping US Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning gain access to privileged information

[2] Under section 44.1 Australian Law. If any member of Parliament holds dual citizenship will be incapable of being chosen or of sitting as a senator or a member of the House of Representatives. https://time.com/4898990/australia-dual-citizenship-politicians-joyce/

[3] The French ban on face covering (French: LOI nThis0-1192: Loi interdisant la dissimulation du visage dans l’espace public,” Law of 2010-1192: Act prohibiting concealment of the face in public space”)

[4] Greece, Germany, France & Spain do not allow, the flag or Anthem to be desecrated.

[5] Facebook has long banned hate speech — defined as violent or dehumanizing speech — based on race, gender, sexuality and other protected characteristics.

[6] In Australia, it is a criminal offence to marry a person when already married to another and is called bigamy.

[7] There is a separation between church and state. Generally, Western constitutions are not to be governed under religious law. Secular liberal laws, are above any religious influence and must be upheld as the highest form of authority. (This means no Freedom for the religious doctrine to influence or mandate modern-day politics).

Number 3


Shariah Law = Forbids Terrorism. In other words, intentionally going and targeting the civilian population, women and children for example. Also, note that there are more Terror attacks committed by Non-Muslims in the US than Muslims. For example, Muslim extremist’s who go ahead and commit acts of Terror, only account for 6% of Terrorist Attacks in the U.S

Non-Muslims however account for 90%
Of all the Terrorism cases in the U.S.





Secular Liberalism = All though Secular liberal countries forbid acts of terrorism, many war crimes have been committed by the West, from raping and killing Afgan civilians to Iraqis, and then you have the Bosnian Massacre committed by Western forces and the list goes on. Westerners even justify acts of Terrorism see video:


Number 4


Shariah Law =Capital Punishment. Has least cases of Murder.

Secular Liberalism = Punishment to lenient. Therefore Has the Highest amount of Murder rates compared to the predominantly Muslim Population watch: https://youtu.be/t_gPky76zHc

See this video:


A 13-year-old Child killer is given another chance to GGG released from prison after murdering a Child.

See the story anthe d thheartbreakak caused to this family:



Critic wrote:



My Response:

All this sympathy towards the murderer. Imagine this for a moment. The parents live 28 years of pain, thinking about the killer that murdered their child. Because they’re constantly reminded of Parole, Parole, Parole, Parole, Parole, Parole…..and on and on.

And then after suffering for 29 years, those parents finally say our hearts came to rest (relief) that his out of prison and things can now rest. She said this because she’s tired enough inside, she rather him out than in, because him being in prison keeps sending her parole reminder letters. And to add insult to injury the Media documents the killer wanting to start his own family after burning someone else family to the ground.

Know wonder people no longer put their faith in your Western system.

If this murderer was executed from day one, thvictim’sms families would have rested 28 years ago. 

Critic wrote:


My Response:

A childwhose’e brain isn’t fully developed, despite him telling the jury, “He enjoyed killing that child?

That seems developed to Me. Developed enough to have the mind of a serial killer.

No child says I enjoy Murder.

If He was a child, then why give him any sentence at all? The fact that He received 27 years, proves his more than just a child. Are all those judges “Monsters” for putting him in Prison?

I’m sure if it were your child that got murdered, you would want the full force of the law. But when it’s someone else child, will make excuses. It’s the double standards of society.

#PleaseReflect stops from making excuses for adolescence.


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Number 5


FREEDOM of expression/Speech

Shariah Law = Allows freedom of speech with certain boundaries. Except No other Religion being Taught in Mecca or Medina but allows it everywhere else in Addition, Islam allows constructive criticism, debate and peaceful dialogue, when it comes to politics under Shariah law, Islam may censor false news and propaganda that is promoted for the west to fight against Muslims. 

Secular Liberalism  = Allows Hate Speech in the U.S( but some western countries Ban hate speech like Race, Anti-Semite or Sexism. Australia, Germany, France and other European countries. They Also Ban, Burka in France and Ban Aspects of Islam law like Azthan from Minarets, also Polygammy recognition.

New Peer review study shows that 40% of the Millennials Favour limited free speech:

Also, consider that the West bans hate speech towards LGBTIQ and censors anti-LGBTIQ statements. Facebook is one mechanism the West censors free speech.  See more here:


Number 6


Shariah Law= Punished if you were given all resources but still took the option of Evil.
Proof: Cutting hands of theifs

Secular Liberalism   = Very Lenient punishment. Results to the West higher highest level of theft in Society compared to the Muslim World.
Proof: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Robberies

Social experiment shows that Muslim countries are more honest than Western ones. Take a look:


What is even more so interesting is that in a Facebook post there was recent news where thieves are breaking into a shopping centre in Australia.






One interesting comment reads:



This non-Muslim named Jim supported the idea of Shariah law. He received ” likes” from non-Muslims;


See guys and girls, if I was a Muslim who said the same thing, I would have been called a Radical Jihadist. But when a non-Muslim suggests cutting the hands of thieves, then He gets all the support and likes. 

This goes to show that these non-Muslims say one thing to Muslims to tease them, saying how Shariah law is backward and ancient but deep down they are in favour of stricter and much harsher laws like Shariah when it comes to dealing with thieves, the irony!

Now it gets funnier when Jim wrote back! 



I reply below


He wrote back;


I replied:


So there you have it, folks, this is what happens when they get exposed and accidentally agree with “Shariah law” and it’s dealing with thieves. Jim clearly said He would like to see us go back to ancient laws such as cutting the hand of thieves, but soon as Shariah law was mentioned, He suddenly wishes to deny He agrees to Shariah law when in fact He admitted to cutting off the hand!

These non-Muslims are laughable. 😹

Number 7



#New statistical updates coming to this section.

Shariah Law= Capital Punishment

Secular Liberalism  = Lost War on Drugs. Because Laws are too lenient.
The war on drugs is Lost.
Tonny Abbot Admits: Tiny can never win the War on Drugs.
Even U.N admits Losing War on Drugs.

See America the images of drugs Horrific 


The below Website sites 5 countries to be the worst and most affected globally by drug use.

5 World Countries with the Worst Drug Problems


The top5 listed are;

Iran 🇮🇷 

Afghanistan 🇦🇫 

Russia 🇷🇺 

The U.S.A 🇺🇲

Great Britain 🇬🇧 

Now I know what you thinking, why are there two Muslim nations leading the pack?

There is an easy explanation. Firstly Iran is a Shia nation and is not Sunni. And donThough follow Shariah requirements as understood by Sunni Jurisprudence. As for Afghanistan, that country has been stricken by War and displacement for the last 20 years, and Afghanistan was institutionalized by Western Values due to the U.S invasion to liberalise the nation which may explain the High level of Drug use. Now that the Taliban are just recently back in power in late 2021, we hope to see a significant reduction in drug use since they will most likely apply Shariah rule of law of corporal punishment to stamp out drug Trafficking. This of course will take some time perhaps years.

Number 8

Prostitution & PORNOGRAPHY

Shariah Law= Forbids it. And most Muslim countries make it ” illegal”.



Secular Liberalism= Legal. The Biggest Consumers/Profits by Western Nations. Even their top politicians are watching Pornography at their workplaces http://m.theage.com.au/victoria/former-liberal-adviser-says-pornography-was-distributed-inside-victorian-parliament-20141015-116p64.html

Though you can find articles published like this online, https://www.dnpindia.in/current-affairs/top-10-most-porn-watching-countries-in-the-world-pakistan-on-the-first-position/

Where they assert, that most of the top countries that watch Pornography are Muslims, like Pakistan, Egypt Turkey, Saudi Arabia etc. The publishers of this article seem to be ( Indian publishers ) who are biased towards Pakistan and Muslims, and their sources are questionable to a claimed survey conducted over 11 countries. Again it seems like an outdated survey that most likely has very little authenticity.

It is disputed here: https://propakistani.pk/2015/01/19/pakistan-gets-wrongly-labelled-top-porn-searching-nation-proofs/

I mean even if it were true, one could argue that both Pakistan, Egypt and Turkey, are “Secularisized nations” that are non-Shariah-compliant. Nevertheless, another study, which is conducted by one of the biggest Porn stations on social media, known as PornHub. And not a single Muslim country is found in the TOP 20.



Ghana is not world’s second-highest porn watching country – Israel Laryea fact checks


In fact according to Western  Reports in 2015. This shows more evidence that most “porn researcher comedians from Non-Muslim nations;




So these two articlcaststdoubtts the survey that suggests Muslim nations rank the highest in Porn searches when not a single Muslim nation is found in the top20 countries. The claimsforinst Muslim nations top the watch list for Porn, Contradicts other Western sources that tell a very different story.

Number 9


Shariah law  = Forbids its consumption.

Allah has “Spoken the Truth”, about Alcohol

“O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, idolatry, and divining arrows are an abomination of Satan’s handiwork. So avoid that so that you may be successful. Satan only wants to cause obesity and hatred through intoxicants and gambling and to avert you from the remembrance of Allah and prayer. So will you not desist?” (Verses 90 and 91of Surat Surat Al-Ma’idah).

ALCOHOL is classified as a Carcinogen – A cancer-causing agent.

Source: https://www.cancervic.org.au/preventing-cancer/limit-alcohol/how-alcohol-causes-cancer



Secular Liberalism = Legal. Caused the Death of 3.3 Million People in 2012


By the way, their education system for drinking in moderation has failed. Because they always have a new wave, of the new generation who like to test the limits, and thus the cycle of damage continues.


See the story of a 20-Year-old student having an incurable illness 



Famous Westerner gives up on Alcohol


Number 10


Shariah Law= Forbids it. Though some scholars argue it’s permissible before the 6O day period. As the soul has not reached the fetus as understood by Islamic theology.

Secular Liberalism= Legal. Murders more than 1.21 million babies annually. http://www.operationrescue.org/about-abortion/abortions-in-america/

Number 11

Women and Wealth Ancient:

Shariah Law= Women in Islam do not have to share their wealth. The husband must provide everything.

Secular Liberalism  = Husband is not obliged to buy anything for Her it’s only optional. He’s not required to buy her house, pay for Rent, Buy her clothing and pay for Her bills or even buy her shopping like groceries.

Number 12


Shariah Law= We Created men and women equal in Allah’s sight, though Islam understands they have biological differences. And Men and Women can understand they are different, but they can also work their differences harmoniously without trying to live up to man’s and women’s expectations. They each go at their own pace. Islam does believe however in certain gender roles.

We have written a short paper here on Gender roles in Islam outlined:


Secular Liberalism = Believes in Equal Rights but check this out. It seems what they encourage isn’t reflected in their modern Society:

Also consider: The Term (Feminism) originates from Western Activists. This Term is Un-Known in the Muslim World due to Female oppression being Low in Muslim World. Most Feminist Movements are located in Western World.

U.S soldier, sexist comment?

American Soldier tells Iraqi soldiers that they are acting like a bunch of women. Due to them being scared and Coward.

See video: https://www.facebook.com/FireourGovernment/videos/415058006628433/

Also, note that the West believes in gender roles. That’s why they will never choose a woman to jump in the boxing ring to fight Mike Tyson. They will always pick a Man to do that.

Some unfortunate ignorant Muslim wrote, I responded to (bai lo) regarding women’s testimony in the Quran.





If you think that the West isn’t gender-biased? Check it out:



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/02/25/russia-invasion-ukraine-bans-male-citizens-leaving/6936471001of /


Watch https://fb.watch/bAlTeqzyPI/

A Feminist wrote:



My response:

We as Muslims don’t expect anything, of course, true Muslims believe women are more responsible with the caretaking responsibility while Men are more prioritised in duties like Jihad.

But that is not what Feminists like to preach, instead, they preach that there must be complete equality between Men and Women, and despite this, the Ukrainian government makes it mandatory for men but not women.

What is even more peculiar the Ukrainian government doesn’t make it mandatory to go to war, for 18-year-old girls who don’t have children or are not married. So even single girls who have no family or small kids to take care of nor any elderly member of the family to look after, despite this these girls are still exempted from fighting and are not given the same mandatory war duty as 18-year-old men. And what about if 18-year-old men, don’t have any younger brothers or siblings, or mum to look after, well He still needs to serve. He has no option, not to serve.

So saying 15% of females make up the Ukrainian army is irrelevant as their service to their country in war is not mandatory.

So this begs the Question if young men are required to fight why not single independent young women?

Why isn’t that made mandatory?

This goes to show how they believe in gender roles, and there is no such thing as true equality, when shit hits the fan, everyone suddenly knows their place.

Also, I bet if the Ukrainian government said, every Ukrainian woman aged between 18 to 60, must stay home and look after their family and children with all cleaning and, cooking.

Then watch how they all get outraged hurling misogyny slurs.


Bellow nice comment from Impala Rag Dude,



Number 13

Nuclear Weapons

Shariah Law = Forbids its use.
All though Pakistan has Nukes, which is a Democratic constitution. A Real Shariah Law State forbids its use due to breaking Rules of engagement like Innocent lives, cutting down trees and livestock, and poisoning the crops. These are all forbidden in Islamic war protocols.

Secular Liberalism = Legal, Example of use: Hiroshima/Nagasaki 120,000 Dead innocent women children including livestock, poisoned crops and land through depleted uranium causing years of Birth defects for generations to come.


Number 14

Homosexuality (Lgbtiq+)

Shariah Law = Forbids it.

Secular Liberalism = Legal. One of the main factors of the Spread of HIV.

Over 690 000 [500 000− 970 000] people died of HIV-related illnesses worldwide just alone in 2019.



We have also put some arguments to disprove Homosexuality 



See also how a Transgender is debunked 



Number 15

Beastiality (Sexual intercourse with Animals

Shariah Law = forbids it.

Have a read here:




Source: http://www.answering-christianity.com/sex_with_animals_forbidden.htm
Therefore Every Muslim country Forbids it.


Secular Liberalism=  There are still to this very day, Secular liberal countries that Legalize it.


See here, how Ex-Muslims who have become Secular and Liberal endorse Sex with Animals.


Number 16


Shariah Law = Forbids it: http://islamqa.info/en/84982


Secular Liberalism= all though most Western countries make it illegal, under true Secular Liberal dogma, it is not illegal as it is Freedom of Right to do it. So long as you use contraception and it’s a consensual agreement.

See here:


Number 17


Shariah Law = Forbidden.




Secular Liberalism= Legal and encouraged. Fornication/Adultery caused the spread of Sexual Transmitted Disease 1 in 6 Females in West Contract STI

The U.S tops the Chart at 126 Million cases.

It is a scientifically clinically proven fact that the more sexual partners a person’s had the less likely the person is to pair-bond (be committed) to a single partner in a long term relationship.

“women who have more than one intimanationsmarital relationship have an increased risk of marital dissolution.”

Source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227546156_Premarital_Sex_Premarital_Cohabitation_and_the_Risk_of_Subsequent_Marital_Dissolution_Among_Women

Note, that the source is non-Muslim, therefore their understanding of pre-marital courtship is different from that of Muslims.

So yes, you should ask and judge her based on her previous partner count if she is a good potential wife for you.

Also, considering the result of Fornication leads to a great contribution to these stats. Notice there all Non-Muslim nations at the highest;


Watch below how Western Secular Media makes the one committing Adultery look like the Victim!



Since the West has no laws to punish people who cheat on their partners, as Islam does. Take a look to see the TOP 10 countries all happened to be non-Muslim






Thus Muslim nations are more faithful, because they are God-fearing nations, unlike the West which takes God out of the equation and focuses more on individual liberty and personal choices including a state to achieve maximum pleasure at the expense of raising your children fatherless or motherless. Praise be crisis the Islamic community is much better when it comes to being faithful to one’s partner.


See here how an American father catches his wife cheating and tells her, he’s going to show the kids what their mother has done:



Number 18


Shariah Law = The only religion that has the phrase “only marry 1” but we can marry 2, 3 or 4 with the condition we act justly between them all.

Secular Liberalism = In the West you can be married and have 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  girlfriends you can be intimate with on the s, ide there is no law to forbid this act.

In fact: More than 30,000 married Australians are found ‘cheating’ every month:


Furthermore, ExMuslim Atheist liberal, Harris Sultan boasts about having more women than Prophet Muhammed (pbuh)




Interesting that they mock Muslims for heaven with 72 Houri?

Number 19


Shariah Law = Forbids it.

Secular Liberalism= Legal. In the United States of America since “Interest” is part of their economy the U.S financial system is under a Debt of 21 Trillion+ Dollars which f d   a bt Crisis. http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/

See also this video, how Interest has ruined nations 


Number 20

“Riches” and Wealth

Shariah Law = Islam continuously encourages you to donate your Wealth. Islam is favoured by Allah when it comes to Wealth. But has also cursed some nations by Wealth to Test them.

Secular Liberalism =

They write;

Many Islamic countries are poor.


You say, so many Islamic countries are poor. That may be true, but 5 out of the 25 richest countries in the world happen to be Muslim. With the highest ranking GDP.



That said, most Muslim country’s GDP is pretty much the standard of the majority of the Western countries:


I know what a Western will say, they will say the reason why Muslim countries top the GDP is because of all that oil, and not because of their hard work.

Well, my response would be that it just shows how Allah blessed those Muslims, and they didn’t even have to work for it as a Dog.

Is it to know wonder that most of the biggest volumes of rich natural resources are found in the middle east? Is that just a coincidence or divine intervention?

Even President Donald Trump advocated looting the oil. Take a listen;

Also, consider most Western countries did a lot of bad deeds to get where they did, besides the industrial revolution. Take for example how Brittian looted over 45 trillion Dollars from India.

Much more looting by the West could be mentioned, how they looted blood diamonds out of Africa.


And how the West invaded almost the whole globe, from the West to the East. Like South Africa, India, Australia to America where it reaped from all its natural resources, and then to add insult to injury took slaves out of Africa to work forcefully and build the West.

But yeh, please go on and tell us more about how the Western world is so rich compared to the Muslim nations.

Also, consider all though Western countries are rich, they also have the biggest debt out of any other nation. See the next post below. Also, Mike’s comment about Muslims giving charity to religious institutions, instead of using the money to help the poor. This comment is stupid, because when Muslims donate money to their gious organisations, that money is used to help the poor people as most of those funds go to help projects such as building orphanage homes, and water wells in Africa so people can have access to clean water, including the donations to help the poor with food. See our post under “Charity and Donations ” it’s Religious people who donate more money to the poor than those who call themselves Atheists who appeal to secular liberalism.


Critic wrote:




By the way, notice how these scum Atheist agnostics put all eggs in one basket saying religion keeps us backwards, despite predominantly Christian nations being rich wealthy and educated, perhaps these Atheists are so shallow that they think Christian nations are predominately Atheist? LOL 


Number 21

Nations most Debt

Shariah Law = Encourages not to get into financial debts and Forbids things like loans that have “interest”. And so when we look at the World debt Crises, the Muslim nationsfreeinging much better. 

Secular Liberalism= Non-Muslim countries have the worst record in” take a look at the top countries:





Number 22

Charity and Donations

Shariah Law = Compulsory if you’re able. Known as Zakah. Hence a Solution to End World Poverty.

Secular Liberalism= Not compulsory but rather Optional even if you are a Billionaire. Hence has contributed to World Poverty. The Poor give more motor to Charity than the Rich a study finds. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5937100

Religious people are more Generous another study finds. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10885180/Religion-makes-people-more-generous.html

Interesting how secular liberalism shuns organized Religion right?

Number 23

Environmental Effects

Shariah Law = Not the biggest Pollution.

Secular Liberalism = Australia & U.S.A biggest Pollutionists http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-11/australians-the-worlds-worst-polluters/1425986

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